Critics and readers have fallen in love with author Sarah M. Broom’s ambitious debut novel, The Yellow House. The Whiting Foundation, which provided Broom its Creative Nonfiction Grant in 2016, argues that the engrossing tale — which covers 100 years of the writer’s own family records in New Orleans — is set to “come to be a contemporary conventional.”

Meanwhile, Patsy, Jamaican-American writer Nicole Dennis-Benn’s particularly anticipated observe-up to her Lambda Award-triumphing debut novel, Here Comes the Sun, turned into launched in June to high acclaim. The New York Times referred to as Patsy a “novel that always and subtly defies predictability as it tells an essential and first-rate life tale.”

As two of today’s freshest Black queer lady writers, Broom and Dennis-Benn got here together — with The Advocate along for the journey — to talk about their today’s works and the specific cultures and reports that formed them as artists and humans, inclusive of the complexities of race, motherhood, and sexuality.

Nicole Dennis-Benn: I became 17 when I moved [from Jamaica] to the U.S.

Sarah M. Broom: I grew up [in New Orleans], and it became a form of like I in no way left, you already know. I’m one among 12 children, so that means someone is always there or having something there. I technically left for college in Texas after I changed into 17 or so.… Yes, the identical age. Which is so interesting, proper, having kind of read through your ebook — and I love these characters, Nicole! I thought a lot about the way you talk approximately domestic and place, and go through the trauma of leaving, or staying, proper? Both can be traumatic in a few approaches for a few human beings.

Dennis-Benn: It’s so thrilling due to the fact once I started out writing I didn’t without a doubt [intend] to write towards what people perceived Jamaica to be. It just genuinely came out, journeying the island once more as a visitor, and of direction, I turned into reading [The Yellow House] — the component, Sarah, where you come as a traveler your self. So it changed into sincerely than in 2010 that I realized that… there’s such a lot of perceptions approximately who we are as humans, our narrative, and so in those testimonies, I wanted to without a doubt discover these complexities. So this time around, people gained’t [see Jamaicans] as just Bob Marley music, we smoke weed — but now because we do have complicated stories, in particular as operating elegance, Jamaican women. We’re part of that fable honestly, whilst the culture is seen as a paradise.

Broom: Yeah, I actually keep in mind that so much, Nicole, as it’s like we both come from those places which have widespread memories around them, you know, and those tales are sold as a way to make cash for the area. And I suppose from time to time the real citizens… they’re the type of suffocating in a way, through the mythology of the area. So it’s remarkable to peer your characters, due to the fact you virtually get under the story, you recognize.

Dennis-Benn: Coming [to the U.S.], I without a doubt came for so many distinctive motives, and amongst them become truly the homophobia. I wasn’t out when I left Jamaica. I genuinely came out once I got here here to America. But there [in Jamaica], I additionally skilled colorist and classism, and I think the one’s matters had been surely greater of a burden…. I commenced internalizing loads of factors. It becomes at some point of my senior yr in faculty and I went to this all-ladies faculty where most of the people of the ladies were lighter-pores and skin Black and really wealthy ladies, and I usually felt like I turned into ostracized…. Coming from an operating-elegance own family, in no way wondering, like, I could amount to anything extra than the secretary, due to the fact you already know [in Jamaica], the magnificence gadget is so rigid…and that became also jarring, to come here as an immigrant, like, I’m going to accomplish the American dream — and not simply unpacking what that is.

Broom: I assume I turned into lucky due to the fact I didn’t develop up with this idea in my head that by some means the North changed into free of blame and this incredible area where whilst you arrive all your issues might be solved. The Southern issue I assume calls for that or not it’s quieter, right, humans are a bit more passive-competitive approximately it, a little subtler…. [The racism] was bolder to me in the North.

Dennis-Benn: I know, in Patsy, I really blatantly discover that subject. Here is that this lady who’s attempting to find her place inside the world — and she or he does it by means of leaving Jamaica, coming to America, chasing that dream that I just described, that myth of what America is…. Patsy feels the need to move and be with Cicely. She leaves her daughter, Tru, behind. And truly with that — Patsy now not being able to mom — it’s a position she never absolutely expected to have and he or she’s no longer virtually able to play very well and felt it was satisfactory to go away due to the fact she doesn’t have anything to provide Tru. I wanted to also tap into that given — it’s taboo trouble everywhere, but for our way of life, for Jamaican ladies, if you don’t have children by using the age of 25, the questions are being requested: “When’s that going to happen? What’s happening? Are you barren?” And right here’s a female now who’s pronouncing to herself first, then to the arena, that she does no longer need to be a mother.

Broom: I loved that a lot approximately Patsy. And I guess thinking about my very own mother, it’s an thrilling question due to the fact that is someone who changed into born in 1941, had 12 children that she raised, and I write within the e-book about how she wasn’t in a position to finish faculty because she would be a terrible instance — and that for me is very linked to the idea that the mom has sort of developed.